Monday, July 12, 2010

Conference call with SyFy’s “Fact or Faked” cast/crew


Today, I had the wonderful opportunity to be in on a conference call with two of the stars of the new SyFy show starting this Thursday night called “Fact or Faked,” Ben Hensen (team leader/ex FBI agent) and Bill Murphy (scientist/investigator), as well as the executive producer, John Brenkus.

As a little background, although Ben was an FBI agent, he did not work on things paranormal, but he grew up with a family that showed interest in the paranormal including UFOs and he eventually got into ghost hunting. Bill has been investigating the paranormal for decades and has a brilliantly logical attitude about it that I completely jive with.

These well-articulated, highly intelligent, and open-minded men really gave me my money’s worth (okay, I didn’t have to pay to be part of the conference call, but you know what I mean). I was impressed. They explained that there are 3 criteria for the show to decide whether to look into explanations for recorded phenomenon:

1. Compelling footage that could be credible.
2. Credible eye witness
3. A case they can actually test.

John, the producer of the show really surprised me the most. I knew Ben and Bill would be the brightest of the bright, but you usually think of a producer as being a figurehead, a tedious taskmaster and even a nagging parent, but he was seriously well versed in the subject matter and totally into it. In fact, I decided to focus my questions on him instead of cutie pie TV-crush Ben.

When I asked John about whether the premise of the show; debunking the paranormal might alienate the viewers who are believers in the paranormal, he had a very level-headed response. He reported that the audience is curious and wants to filter out what is real and what is not. (You know, all those videos running around on the Internet purporting captured phenomena?) Bill, the scientist/investigator chimed in that they are not debunking but attempting to replicate the conditions to explain if it is normal or paranormal.

When asked about whether doing the show has proven that we don’t have equipment to pick up phenomena or whether it has jaded him that phenomena actually exists, John explained that science just needs to catch up with techniques and equipment to adequately measure these things. He compared it to the fact that we have oxygen in the atmosphere but we didn’t always have instruments to measure it, but it was still there. I loved this response because that is my exact feeling about the technology we’re using (crude electrician’s tools and photography equipment).

Interestingly, they said that when they dispute things on the show, they do so in a way that makes believers in the supposed evidence sure it really is not paranormal. They go to enormous lengths to be certain they are doing all they can to dispel doubt about whether some Internet viral ghost footage is fact or faked.

As well, John spoke about something I have known forever, but was glad to hear others are studying this; the concept that emotions in an area over a period of time can have a recording effect. I had not heard of this group “Global Consciousness,” but the study is brilliant and I am floored that something I have known since I was a child by being in emotional sites such as war memorials and hospitals and churches is actually being given validation. Emotion imprints/energy!

Oh, and as an AZ resident, I was thrilled to hear their opening episode this Thursday night on SyFy (9 central/10 EST) has footage taken in AZ of some strange lights that they believe was absolutely unexplainable and perhaps the most amazing footage of the season…

I was excited about this show, but even more so now. Thank you, SyFy, for taking the time away from the fantastically cheesy original movies that I adore and getting a show on the air, like “Destination Truth” that makes me wiggle in my seat.

21 comments:

  1. I am more excited about this show than before. It is nice to see these highly intelligent logic minded men testing out videos and photos to see if they are real or not. I won't be disappointed if something is found to be fake, I will be glad to know the truth. Like you said, I am as excited for this show to begin like I am when DT's season finally begins.

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  2. That was you I was talking to today? Haha. I didn't put the two together Autumn! Thank you for the support, it was fun chatting! -Ben

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  3. Ben;
    I was going by my real name, but I did point my questions at John. I thought you would probably get plenty of people sending you questions and as the producer, I figured he might have an interesting insight about the show's efficacy in the long run. I have to say, I was thoroughly impressed with your responses to the questions--all 3 of you and I am a tough cookie when it comes to hearing people talk about the paranormal. I run into a lot of strange ones out there with weird answers to the paranormal that make no logical sense. You were a breath of fresh air. I support the show 100% and your efforts.

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  4. So excited to hear you approve so far! I'm going to link your review to my Twitter which has a continuous feed to SyFy's.. if you don't mind:)

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  5. I think I've heard of the Global Consciousness project a while back but it's been so long and I read so much it's hard to say when and where. I'm thoroughly digging the idea though. It explains a lot in the realm of oppressive-type atmospheres. I've heard (though I've never actually been there myself) that in the concentration camps of Auschwitz birds will actually avoid the place, animals rarely tread there, and people who never cry suddenly break down here for no apparent reason. There's something to this theory and I'm interested in seeing just how much more there is.

    I have hopes for this show and do hope I get to watch it. I'm really wishing for a show that is willing to tackle the hard questions, not just the ones that can be easily dismantled and scrutinized. I remember a while back watching a special put on by NatGeo that tried to debunk ghostly phenomenon. They only went after the most obvious stuff (like orbs). I was disappointed since they never brought anything new to the table. Just stuff anyone could find out with a little quick research on the web.

    I'm STILL trying to get someone to debunk what happened to the Ghost Hunter's cameraman who was knocked down by an "unseen force" in the upper deck of an Army hanger. No one ever touches cases like these. There is also a really interesting video (the only one I've see out of perhaps 80) that really puts me for a loop as to its authenticity. There have also been some footage aired on various ghost documentaries (see The Haunted episode "Leave House", among others) that just scream to be looked at further. In addition, I remember hearing of a haunting where the walls secreted a liquid and when samples were taken to a forensics lab the results came back as human blood. No one could explain how this happened and no matter how often they tried to clean up the walls the stuff kept pouring out (this one's been a while so maybe it's been debunked?). And does anyone remember the case of a haunting so severe in literally chased the owners from their home and when a team went in to investigate, one of the crew was literally strangled by a noose that was hanging from the rafters in the attic, scratched, and even hit I think (this one still gives me chills).

    I'm not one to jump up and cry ghost ever time I see a speck of dust cross a lens but I would like to think I've got an eye for the more legitimate stuff out there. I just really wish, again, someone would tackle the hard stuff and I hope this is the show that does it.

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  6. Fantastic post! I'm looking forward to this show!

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  7. Grim;
    You're right. This show does seem to take the "evidence" floating out there on the internet and people getting sucked in by it and makes you go--wait a minute--let's look at this closer. It's important for people to not take stuff on face value. Like the supposed blood being excreted by the walls of the house. That smacks of rumor and storytelling. I did enjoy the smack down of the sound guy, but I'm still not completely sure he didn't catch himself and smack himself with his bag, but hey it's possible. I'd seriously love it if something of a supernatural nature smacked me down. I'd be cool with that, but I guess I just don't incite swinging and kicking and biting... but if a ghost laughs--I did that! And, speaking of Nat'l Geo... they did an episode that I found online that had to do with infrasound; the thought that perhaps ghosts communicate at this very low frequency level and that's why we feel it in our bodies (think of those bass speakers in low-rider cars that make your chest rumble) but our ears don't pick it up. I'm still heavy on the correlations with geomagnetic storms. One-hundred percent of the time I had activity it was on one of those storm nights, usually electron flux or K4 storms. I asked other hunters--they found the correlation too. Even correlated it to world events. It's pretty cool. I would like to explore it more. From late 2008 until just recently it flatlined like never before and the ghost hunting shows were getting nada. Activity is back in geomagnetic storms and I suspect the next season of ghost hunting shows should show some sporadic improvement.

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  8. Dan;
    Me too! I'm wiggling in my seat and it's only Monday night! (of course, I could be wiggling in my seat cause I accidently sat down on the remote control...) Still, I've go a post-it note on the big screen so I don't zone out. I'm not used to finding good TV on Thursday nights--wahoo!

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  9. Yeah, who knows. I'm not saying the blood-leaking-wall was fact or crap since I don't spend my days researching these things but I swear at the time I heard it, it was pretty freak'n real, but then again it might not have been. It WAS years ago. That's why I said "it might have been debunked". As for the camera guy? I watched that tape 10 times over and could see no way he "caught himself" on anything. He was just standing there and the bag flew up in his face from what I can remember. I'm just saying it's weird. I told you, I don't believe in ghosts every day of the week. When I say weird, I mean just that and no more. The NatGeo episode I saw on hauntings was old. I still have yet to see the new ones and can't wait to do so. I have a feeling when I finally do, it'll be like an "ah ha!" moment and all this crap might start making a bit more sense. All I'm saying is, I wish people would look for the hardest stuff to explain and explain it. I'm neither a skeptic nor a believer, just an inquisitive mind. It doesn't offend me either way the information flows, but my god, take on the hard shit!

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  10. Grim, buddy, you are so hardcore. Yeah, I know exactly where you're going with this. The camera man's bag I watched a good 50 times. Of course, not the optimal way to film it, could have missed things, but it looked like he got konked by a bag that defied gravity and acted a lot like poltergeist stuff that happened where I grew up. It rang true for me. I would seriously like a little interactive sparring myself. I need a good slap in the face to come to conclusions. I'm still waiting for undeniable proof of interaction. I took your advice about the book and actually have about 15 pages done already. It poured out of me. I'm calling it "Differential Diagnosis for the Paranormal: Did I Just See a Ghost?" You made me think about my background with counseling, the way I break interviews down into sets of questions as a differential diagnosis for folks who wonder if they encountered the unknown, how I'm psychic and a ghost hunter, as well as a skeptic and a believer. I am going to have to bounce it off of you. All the things I do on the blog and by email for folks--helping them break it down...that's what it'll be about. You want to answer the hard stuff, you can do it with my methods. You will have to get a signed copy when it's completed, perhaps a dedication. In the mean time, go onto Nat'l geo online and look up their supernatural/ghost type stuff. They have a slew of those videos that delve into some of the big questions about ghosts and how they work.

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  11. Bounce your writing off me all you want, especially the non-fic stuff. There's not been enough work sent in. I'm still waiting for that horror western to be done with.

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  12. Grim;
    I'll be sending "Deadwood Mesa" with your favorite undead cowboy and the vampires in the ghost town mines to you asap! In fact, I'm finishing the rough draft tonight and will send it out to the writing group probably tomorrow--fingers crossed. I just love this story!!!

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  13. I shall be awaiting it anxiously.

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  14. Jeez,
    I hope I can live up to the expectations...

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  15. Was that a wry tone I heard in that comment?

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  16. Grim;
    You can now hear subtle differences in my written word--I knew you were psychic, sweetie! I'm at the climax of the novella now. I shall be done by midnight--I swear it!

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  18. Grim;
    Poof! It's gone! Actually, I could ask you why on a blog you left posts aon, n asian porn place was leaving messages... you got some folks you owe money following you, buddy?

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  19. I owe money to people I've never even met? No surprises there. Although there was this one time I got totally smashed and woke up in a Japanese hotel room on the third floor....

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  20. So, you were "sofa king drunk"? hahaha. Yeah, you're owing those Asian porn sites serious cash. You should get the free porn, sweetie. It's not as hardcore, but hey it'll work in a pinch.

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